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   mattjgerard
   Member

   http://www.clipwrap.com/

   I have a sony HDR-XR520V camcorder, and have been looking (diligenlty) for a way to organize the slew of home videos. I've been looking at ClipWrap as a quick way to convert or rewrap the MTS files from the camera. Seems to work for FCP and Quicktime, but I jsut did a test with Clipstart, and clipstart doesn't seem to recognize the file as a movie.

   Any Suggestions? I can post a movie that is an .mts from the camera and the same movie processed through Clipwrap for you to play with if you want.

   I hate iMovie with its bloated interface and slow performance. I am a daily FCP user. It looks like your software has a lot of potential for what I am looking for in being able to easily and quickly organzie the thousands of video files I will be creating int he future.

   Thanks!

   Matt

   Posted 7 months ago #
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   manton
   Riverfold Software

   Hi Matt,

   I'd definitely like to see a movie processed with ClipWrap. Can you post the URL to download or email it to support@riverfold.com? I don't know enough about what ClipWrap does yet to know if it's a minor bug that can be fixed in Clipstart or if it's just not compatible, like MTS.

   Clipstart will also ignore .mts extensions when it imports an entire folder, so you may want to try renaming it to .mov and see if that makes a difference. There will be better support for configuring this in the next version of Clipstart.

   Thanks!

   Posted 7 months ago #
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   mattjgerard
   Member

   http://www.creativeftp.com
   then login in with this info-

   Username- clipstart
   PW- video

   One mts clip and one processed with clipwrap.

   Let me know what you think. I was looking at AtomicView, but taht seems just a little too over the top for me. This is a list of priorities that I am looking for in software like yours.

   1) Import and ingest from my camera. (none do this, but it would be nice. I am willing to use 2 programs ie. Clipwrap AND Clipstart to achieve this)
   2) Group by date when the video was shot. Clipwrap ignores the shot date, and uses the file attributes of when Clipwrap processes the files. I am talking to them about that. Whats the point if I can't see when the video was shot?!?!
   3) Quickly rename video files, in a batch renaming fashion.
   4) Tag video files with subjects, locations, event. Tag multiple files at once.
   5) Start a new "library" every 3 months, so the library doesn't get too huge. Main caveat of iMovie. database gets soo huge it takes forever to load and search.
   6) Global search of all libraries of tags. ie search for "Johnny" in all libraries, or all open libraries.

   Take a look at JetPhotosoft.com. I use them for still photo organization, and I really like the way it works.

   Thanks! and let me know if you need anymore feedback or ideas.

   Matt

   Posted 7 months ago #
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   manton
   Riverfold Software

   Thanks for the feedback. Good points. Do you feel like Clipstart handles 3 and 4 well? If not, I'd love to hear what could be improved.

   Also, let me know what the ClipWrap guys say about the file modification dates. Do they keep the creation date the same? (Clipstart only uses the mod date to be consistent throughout the app, but it does have a batch date changing feature if you need it.)

   Posted 7 months ago #
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   mattjgerard
   Member

   THis is what I got from the ClipWrap people. Not encouraging, at least he could have said that this is something that could be looked into, but didn't seem interested in it.

   "Matt,

   In the course of rewrapping, we are only concerned with moving the video and audio data form the transport stream into a suitable QT wrapper. We parser timecode, but all other metadata (most of which resides in the stream and not the video/audio) will be lost.

   Sorry for the bad news.

   mike"

   I'll look into #3 and #4 more in a little bit. i haven't had much time to play with it. But, I will get back to you.

   Posted 7 months ago #
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   manton
   Riverfold Software

   I talked to one of the ClipWrap developers at Macworld this week. While it's unlikely they will change the behavior of dates in ClipWrap, I'm going to explore integrating support more closely into Clipstart for ClipWrap, to hopefully make it a smoother workflow. I need to do more testing before I commit to the feature, but I think there is a lot of potential there.

   Thanks.

   Posted 6 months ago #
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   mattjgerard
   Member

   Thanks for looking into it. I don't understand why they won't make that happen. Having the file creation date match the date that the clips was "wrapped" is completely USELESS!!! that's why there is a CREATION DATE and a MODIFIED DATE.

   Frustrating. They don't understand how this is limiting the usefullness of thier software.

   I'll email him back and see if I can rattle some trees.

   I appreciate your willingness to actually attempt to see if there is something to be done. They just said nope.

   This doesn't preclude me using your software, but I'm not sure how I'll integrate it yet. Let me know if you need anything else from me, and I'll post back if I hear anything from them.

   Matt

   Posted 6 months ago #
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   drcongo
   Member

   Hi Matt. There's a kind of work around to the problem you're having with losing the file creation date when using ClipWrap which is to batch rename your video files with the creation date prepended to the filename before you run them through ClipWrap. I use an app called Name Changer, available here...

   http://web.mac.com/mickeyroberson/MRR_Software/NameChanger.html

   which gives me filenames like this: 2008-08-16 2016 - 00060.MTS

   The downside of this is that your ClipWrapped files will still have the new creation date (which strictly speaking is the correct behaviour for ClipWrap because it creates a new file), so any application you use to sort the video files is still going to be looking at that new creation date.

   However, on the plus side, renaming the actual video files like this will allow you to see at a glance the date any video was taken without having to view the metadata.

   Hope this fits your workflow and helps in some way.

   Posted 6 months ago #

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